Many claim using Jesus Christ as the base point of their preaching but be wary and cautious for there are many who have enjoined to use the religious fervor of Jesus Christ as their only way and means to gain foothold and power from people who are not careful enough to be watchful and allows the uncanny and wolves in sheep's clothing to devour slowly the care-free and lax behavior of others.
Many came as false prophets and how does one distinguished them, they preach tithes and offerings without ceasing and inculcate the need for absolute obedience of their flocks.
They never really taught the real and true preachings of Christ but only what merits their group and organization. The centralization of preaching pulpit or shall we say the centralization of the offerings.
This man is Cesar Castellano who allegedly founded the G12 Movement in Bogota, Colombia. In the surface it seems a legitimate Christian religious group but once you get deeper into the root of the groupings and the mere importance given by this group to the number 12 as the number of godly men, you cannot omit to distinguish and identify that there is some level of truth of cultic teaching in the G12 especially in the embroiling School of Leaders teachings they have.
They teach the winning of souls as their vision is about Winning the world through his vision of the Government of 12. What is alarming is how many countless legitimate small churches have allied with this group and thinking the only means to expand is through the Castellano formula or Ladder of Success of this group.
But it is actually a slow, imbedding the cult teaching of this man, who's wife happens to be a politician in Colombia and both have once been accused of receiving Millions of Dollars and even a conduit for the Bogota Drug Cartel. To this couple and their children, it is all about the money.
Not to mention the many unrevealed ill-gotten wealth of the Castellano's and how they have franchised the ideology of G12 across the globe. If one would scrutinized every teachings of the G12 churches, they have focused on the books of Castellanos sold on the idea of absolute obedience to him and being obedient to him is translation of obedience to Christ. But one must see the emphasis that obedience to Christ alone is not the objective but the objective is to focus and give much value and credit to the Castellano couple.
The same goes for their Philippines principal and one of Cesar Castellano's International 12 disciple and the progenerator in the Philippines who allegedly claims himself as a "Bishop" Oriel M. Ballano together with his wife, allegedly "Pastor" Geraldine Ballano. But if one would look closely, this leader of Doulos for Christ World Harvest Ministry who targets campuses around Metro Manila, existed for 25 years and yet does not have their own structure of church but the Ballano's couple amassed so much wealth, having their own Mansion with an elaborate swimming pool and countless high end vehicles and SUV. For which Oriel Ballano once claimed these high valued cars were "given as a gift" from the member of his congregation that gathers every sunday in a rented tent venue at the Philippine International Convention Center. But if you will look closely at his flocks, mostly students and a few start-up middle aged men and women who cannot even afford a house or a car of their own, so how come a member of the congregation is able to give a gift to him and his wife?
"Bishop" Oriel M. Ballano and Geraldine Ballano could not even give account for their church finances as they closely held on to their book of accounts and wantonly shop around the US for what is considered a high means for a church leader. Their credentials does not even speak highly of their capacity to preach the gospel as they do not have a formal theological schooling and is not respectable among the most respected churches in the Philippines.
Oh how such a wizardly fat "Bishop" who preaches over and over again in the pulpit to his flock about the importance of absolute obedience to him and his wife even to his primary 12 disciples even if they are wrong, no one should contest them as this signifies disobedience to God and the teachings of Christ. One who does attend other churches are considered having wrong hearts and the only church one must grow should be the church where the money flows throught their bank accounts.
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TumugonBurahinHow Castellano became a false prophet? Have you think? or you're the of G12 competitor. I don't know!
Burahin“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves." - Matthew 7:15
Burahin"Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world." - 1 John 4:1
"For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect." - Matthew 24:24
Just curious. What if the false prophet is the person who wrote this blog? How can you measure if someone is in a cult? You can't verses when it can easily apply to you as well. Please check my comment below.
BurahinProof to why G12 is a cult:
TumugonBurahinhttp://www.spiritual-research-network.com/g12_cult_spiritual_abuse_dangers.html
We don't need a genius to read between the lines. Ask yourself, are you smart enough to know whether this group is legitimate? Yes by simply registering their religious group and preaching to the world this and that. So simple.. but you this group cannot simply rival any foundational christian teaching. I called it "self-made religion." Ask yourself do you really need someone tell you who is your God? or you simply know that God is with you even before you join this group? That's for you to know.. but if you continue going to this group, that's for you to risk. Good luck!
Cult is a religious group. I've been there, and they have the psychological power to change your mind over night. If you want to get in, just be very very careful. Read the Bible to have a clear and sound background of the teaching of Jesus. G12? Am too careful. You can distinguish them through their rituals, because cults always have rituals.
TumugonBurahinHEY ELIJAH!!!! WALA KANG MAGAWA SA BUHAY MO? O TALAGANG ISA KA SA KAMPON NG DEMONYO?? SORRY SA MGA SALITA KO PERO ANG EPAL MUNA EH!!!
BurahinHEY ELIJAH!!!! WALA KANG MAGAWA SA BUHAY MO? O TALAGANG ISA KA SA KAMPON NG DEMONYO?? SORRY SA MGA SALITA KO PERO ANG EPAL MUNA EH!!!
BurahinElijah, your a liar! A big liar. Duh. We know them, and I know that God appointed them to preached and share His words. So, you better to shut up your mouth. Wala ka sa katayuan para manghusga. Wala kang karapatan o ang sinoman. Nakakaawa ka, kasi bulag ka sa katotohanan. Pero ito lang masasabi ko: G12 is to serve. We are serving God, the same time serving other by loving, caring and sharing a testimonies as encouragement. I believe in God, they are just an instrument and guide. Just look to JESUS, not on the people here in this world.
BurahinI've been in the Church that being manipulate by What you called ''G12''Yes,I even enrolled on their so called discipleship training (Pre-encounter,post-encounter,School of leaders 1,2,3) but after I left that Church,doon ko unti-unting naranasan yung kapayapaan sa puso ko WHY?? I'm sorry sa mga matatamaan ng mga sasabihin ko but I can't keep quiet regarding this heresy in the Church today,you know why?? It is very alarming to be spiritually raped by these false teachers claiming that they received a revelation from God, LOOK AT THE HISTORY OF G12 AND YOUR LEADERS FOR THEIR DEEDS WILL REVEAL THEM, AS APOSTLE PAUL SAYS IN 2 CORINTHIANS 11:14-15 ''And no wonder! For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also transform themselves into ministers of righteousness, whose end will be according to their works.'' Kahit na nasa loob ng Iglesya ng Dios may mga Taong lilitaw na dala-dala ang nakapanlilinlang na pananalita, mga taong may tatak ng pagka-alipin ni satanas.Apostle paul told ephesian elders to look over the flock which God entrusted them these words '' For I know this, that after my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock. Also from among yourselves men will rise up, speaking perverse things, to draw away the disciples after themselves. Ako'y hindi nagmamagaling when it comes to scriptures what I'm trying to expose is the lasciviousness of those claiming they are appointed by God,These False teachers were driven by their greed,(JUST WHAT THIS G12 THING ABOUT) LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THE PRACTICES OF THESE ERRONEOUS PREACHERS. IN THAT CHURCH WHERE I CAME FROM, MAY GANITONG ''MANTRA''(THE NAME IT CLAIM IT) I-dideclare mo sa prayer mo yung mga bagay na gusto mong mangyari say for instance ''Financial breakthrough'' ''maging mayaman'' ''SUMPA,KAHIRAPAN,SAKIT,LUNGKOT GET OUT!!) - DINIDECLARE NG MGA PREACHERS,LEADERS, it is actually the problem with this system,yes I consider it a system first of all HOW DARE CESAR CASTELLANO TO CLAIM HE GOT THAT VISION FROM GOD! I'M NOT GOING TO SAY SORRY FOR THAT. Kung bubuksan ninyo lang yung mga mata ninyo you'll see,If you do the research you'll get the information,and IF YOU SEEK GOD'S GUIDANCE YOU WILL BE LEAD ON THE RIGHT PATH,HE will give you understanding,Oo at first I was so hesitant to seek truth,to do a lot of research about G12 because I believed that it is from God (The vision Castellano referring to) but thanks be to God for He lighten up my clouded mind.Jesus told us in the last days “Take heed that no one deceives you. 5 For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will deceive many.'' - Matthew 24:4
Burahin'' Kung mapapanuod ninyo yung videos nila sa youtube they are (REFERRING TO G12 PASTORS AND FALSE PROPHETS) ALWAYS TELLS PEOPLE ''I CAN SENSE THE HOLY SPIRIT IS DOING AMAZING THINGS IN US RIGHT NOW'' OR ''YOU WILL RECEIVE THE SPIRIT OF REVIVAL'' ''YOU WILL BE ABLE TO RAISE YOUR 144'' ''YOU WILL BE PROMOTED'' WOW! SUGAR-COATED ISN'T IT?? IS THIS REALLY A VISION ?? ONLY HEAR THOSE WORDS THAT WE ARE DYING TO HEAR?? in the book of Jude,jude clearly emphasized this ''These (REFERRING TO FALSE PROPHETS) are grumblers, complainers, walking according to their own lusts; and they mouth great swelling words, flattering people to gain advantage.'' - JUDE 1:16. ''For when they speak great swelling words of emptiness, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through lewdness, the ones who have actually escaped from those who live in error.While they promise them liberty, they themselves are slaves of corruption; for by whom a person is overcome, by him also he is brought into bondage - 2 Peter 2:18-19 and Apostle paul clearly says ''Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons, speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own conscience seared with a hot iron,'' - 1 timothy 4:1-2 and in the book of Revelation ''But I have a few things against you, because you have there those who hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balak to put a stumbling block before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed to idols, and to commit sexual immorality.Thus you also have those who hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, which thing I hate.'' - REVELATION 2:14-15.WHAT IS THE DOCTRINE OF BALAAM MEANS??.. IF YOU READ THE WHOLE STORY IN THE OLD TESTAMENT,YOU WILL CLEARLY SEE that BALAAM is a prophet,he has a God-given gifts therefore he abused his God-given gifts against the children of israel why?? BECAUSE OF MONEY! BECAUSE he is GREEDY, DO YOU NOT KNOW THAT FOLLOWING THOSE G12 LEADERS WILL BROUGHT CHAOS INTO YOUR LIVES?? EVENTUALLY KOKOPYAHIN NIYO DIN YUNG PRINSIPYO NG MGA LEADERS NA NAMUMUNO SA INYO DUE TO SO CALLED ''OBEDIENCE''. THEIR MINDSET WILL BE YOUR MINDSET TOO.. THEY ARE PREACHING''PROSPERITY GOSPEL'' THEN YOU WILL BE PREACHING IT ALSO. IT'S ACTUALLY A DIRECT ASSAULT TO GOD'S WORD. HAVE YOU EVER WENT TO ONE OF THEIR RETREATS? (EGR OR EGW) NAG-PREACH BA SILA ABOUT CURSES BECAUSE OF OUR SINS?? SINABI BA NILANG ''PINALAYA NA TAYO MULA SA KASALANAN,SA KAHIRAPAN,SA SAKIT, KARAMDAMAN) LAGI BA NILANG GINAGAMIT YUNG BIBLE VERSE MULA SA GALATIANS 3:13?? LET ME TELL YOU THIS QUESTION ''ARE YOU BRAIN WASHED BY THESE SHEEP-CLOATHING BUT INWARDLY ARE RAVENOUS WOLVES?? ARE THESE GREEDS SO CALLED CHRISTIAN PREACHERS STOLE YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF THE GOSPEL?? YES IT MAY BE SOUND GOOD,''WIN SOULS AND MAKE DISCIPLES'' VERY CONVINCING SCHEME FROM satan... Buksan ninyo yung Bible nyo read GENESIS,the beginning of fall of mankind. READ IT BAKIT BA NATUKSO SI ADAN AT SI EVA?? DI BA PINANGAKUAN SILA NG DIYABLO??.. ''magiging parang diyos kayo kapag kumain kayo nito.'' -Genesis 3:4. Hindi lahat ng magaganda sa PANGIN NATIN ay aprubado ng Dios at hindi lahat ng PREACHERS ay MULA SA DIOS. sabi ni John the beloved in the book of
Burahin1 John 4:1 ''Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world.'' we ought to test every spirits if they are of God or not. Sabi rin ni apostol pablo ''But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed.'' -Galatians 1:8
'' Kung mapapanuod ninyo yung videos nila sa youtube they are (REFERRING TO G12 PASTORS AND FALSE PROPHETS) ALWAYS TELLS PEOPLE ''I CAN SENSE THE HOLY SPIRIT IS DOING AMAZING THINGS IN US RIGHT NOW'' OR ''YOU WILL RECEIVE THE SPIRIT OF REVIVAL'' ''YOU WILL BE ABLE TO RAISE YOUR 144'' ''YOU WILL BE PROMOTED'' WOW! SUGAR-COATED ISN'T IT?? IS THIS REALLY A VISION ?? ONLY HEAR THOSE WORDS THAT WE ARE DYING TO HEAR?? in the book of Jude,jude clearly emphasized this ''These (REFERRING TO FALSE PROPHETS) are grumblers, complainers, walking according to their own lusts; and they mouth great swelling words, flattering people to gain advantage.'' - JUDE 1:16. ''For when they speak great swelling words of emptiness, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through lewdness, the ones who have actually escaped from those who live in error.While they promise them liberty, they themselves are slaves of corruption; for by whom a person is overcome, by him also he is brought into bondage - 2 Peter 2:18-19 and Apostle paul clearly says ''Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons, speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own conscience seared with a hot iron,'' - 1 timothy 4:1-2 and in the book of Revelation ''But I have a few things against you, because you have there those who hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balak to put a stumbling block before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed to idols, and to commit sexual immorality.Thus you also have those who hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, which thing I hate.'' - REVELATION 2:14-15.WHAT IS THE DOCTRINE OF BALAAM MEANS??.. IF YOU READ THE WHOLE STORY IN THE OLD TESTAMENT,YOU WILL CLEARLY SEE that BALAAM is a prophet,he has a God-given gifts therefore he abused his God-given gifts against the children of israel why?? BECAUSE OF MONEY! BECAUSE he is GREEDY, DO YOU NOT KNOW THAT FOLLOWING THOSE G12 LEADERS WILL BROUGHT CHAOS INTO YOUR LIVES?? EVENTUALLY KOKOPYAHIN NIYO DIN YUNG PRINSIPYO NG MGA LEADERS NA NAMUMUNO SA INYO DUE TO SO CALLED ''OBEDIENCE''. THEIR MINDSET WILL BE YOUR MINDSET TOO.. THEY ARE PREACHING''PROSPERITY GOSPEL'' THEN YOU WILL BE PREACHING IT ALSO. IT'S ACTUALLY A DIRECT ASSAULT TO GOD'S WORD. HAVE YOU EVER WENT TO ONE OF THEIR RETREATS? (EGR OR EGW) NAG-PREACH BA SILA ABOUT CURSES BECAUSE OF OUR SINS?? SINABI BA NILANG ''PINALAYA NA TAYO MULA SA KASALANAN,SA KAHIRAPAN,SA SAKIT, KARAMDAMAN) LAGI BA NILANG GINAGAMIT YUNG BIBLE VERSE MULA SA GALATIANS 3:13?? LET ME TELL YOU THIS QUESTION ''ARE YOU BRAIN WASHED BY THESE SHEEP-CLOATHING BUT INWARDLY ARE RAVENOUS WOLVES?? ARE THESE GREEDS SO CALLED CHRISTIAN PREACHERS STOLE YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF THE GOSPEL?? YES IT MAY BE SOUND GOOD,''WIN SOULS AND MAKE DISCIPLES'' VERY CONVINCING SCHEME FROM satan... Buksan ninyo yung Bible nyo read GENESIS,the beginning of fall of mankind. READ IT BAKIT BA NATUKSO SI ADAN AT SI EVA?? DI BA PINANGAKUAN SILA NG DIYABLO??.. ''magiging parang diyos kayo kapag kumain kayo nito.'' -Genesis 3:4. Hindi lahat ng magaganda sa PANGIN NATIN ay aprubado ng Dios at hindi lahat ng PREACHERS ay MULA SA DIOS. sabi ni John the beloved in the book of
Burahin1 John 4:1 ''Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world.'' we ought to test every spirits if they are of God or not. Sabi rin ni apostol pablo ''But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed.'' -Galatians 1:8
'' Kung mapapanuod ninyo yung videos nila sa youtube they are (REFERRING TO G12 PASTORS AND FALSE PROPHETS) ALWAYS TELLS PEOPLE ''I CAN SENSE THE HOLY SPIRIT IS DOING AMAZING THINGS IN US RIGHT NOW'' OR ''YOU WILL RECEIVE THE SPIRIT OF REVIVAL'' ''YOU WILL BE ABLE TO RAISE YOUR 144'' ''YOU WILL BE PROMOTED'' WOW! SUGAR-COATED ISN'T IT?? IS THIS REALLY A VISION ?? ONLY HEAR THOSE WORDS THAT WE ARE DYING TO HEAR?? in the book of Jude,jude clearly emphasized this ''These (REFERRING TO FALSE PROPHETS) are grumblers, complainers, walking according to their own lusts; and they mouth great swelling words, flattering people to gain advantage.'' - JUDE 1:16. ''For when they speak great swelling words of emptiness, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through lewdness, the ones who have actually escaped from those who live in error.While they promise them liberty, they themselves are slaves of corruption; for by whom a person is overcome, by him also he is brought into bondage - 2 Peter 2:18-19 and Apostle paul clearly says ''Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons, speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own conscience seared with a hot iron,'' - 1 timothy 4:1-2 and in the book of Revelation ''But I have a few things against you, because you have there those who hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balak to put a stumbling block before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed to idols, and to commit sexual immorality.Thus you also have those who hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, which thing I hate.'' - REVELATION 2:14-15.WHAT IS THE DOCTRINE OF BALAAM MEANS??.. IF YOU READ THE WHOLE STORY IN THE OLD TESTAMENT,YOU WILL CLEARLY SEE that BALAAM is a prophet,he has a God-given gifts therefore he abused his God-given gifts against the children of israel why?? BECAUSE OF MONEY! BECAUSE he is GREEDY, DO YOU NOT KNOW THAT FOLLOWING THOSE G12 LEADERS WILL BROUGHT CHAOS INTO YOUR LIVES?? EVENTUALLY KOKOPYAHIN NIYO DIN YUNG PRINSIPYO NG MGA LEADERS NA NAMUMUNO SA INYO DUE TO SO CALLED ''OBEDIENCE''. THEIR MINDSET WILL BE YOUR MINDSET TOO.. THEY ARE PREACHING''PROSPERITY GOSPEL'' THEN YOU WILL BE PREACHING IT ALSO. IT'S ACTUALLY A DIRECT ASSAULT TO GOD'S WORD. HAVE YOU EVER WENT TO ONE OF THEIR RETREATS? (EGR OR EGW) NAG-PREACH BA SILA ABOUT CURSES BECAUSE OF OUR SINS?? SINABI BA NILANG ''PINALAYA NA TAYO MULA SA KASALANAN,SA KAHIRAPAN,SA SAKIT, KARAMDAMAN) LAGI BA NILANG GINAGAMIT YUNG BIBLE VERSE MULA SA GALATIANS 3:13?? LET ME TELL YOU THIS QUESTION ''ARE YOU BRAIN WASHED BY THESE SHEEP-CLOATHING BUT INWARDLY ARE RAVENOUS WOLVES?? ARE THESE GREEDY SO CALLED CHRISTIAN PREACHERS STOLE YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF THE GOSPEL?? YES IT MAY BE SOUND GOOD,''WIN SOULS AND MAKE DISCIPLES'' VERY CONVINCING SCHEME FROM satan... Buksan ninyo yung Bible nyo read GENESIS,the beginning of fall of mankind. READ IT BAKIT BA NATUKSO SI ADAN AT SI EVA?? DI BA PINANGAKUAN SILA NG DIYABLO??.. ''magiging parang diyos kayo kapag kumain kayo nito.'' -Genesis 3:4. Hindi lahat ng magaganda sa PANGIN NATIN ay aprubado ng Dios at hindi lahat ng PREACHERS ay MULA SA DIOS. sabi ni John the beloved in the book of
Burahin1 John 4:1 ''Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world.'' we ought to test every spirits if they are of God or not. Sabi rin ni apostol pablo ''But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed.'' -Galatians 1:8
DIEM GHIE, FOR UR INFORMATION TAMAD K LNG MAGDESCIPLE..ANO PINUNTA MO S ENCOUNTER AND DISCIPLESHIP,PUMUNTA KA LANG SA G 12 PARA MAGKAROON NG HEAD KNOWLEDGE....HINDI EXPERIENCE KAY JESUS CHRIST!!!!!
BurahinNaalis ng may-ari ang komentong ito.
BurahinG12 is cult... Government of 12? saan sa bible na sinabi na the church should be governed by 12? ... sabi sa bible "Godliness and contentment is great gain indeed, for we brought nothing in, and obviously we can bring nothing out..."
Burahinsabi pa... "mahirap makapasok sa kaharian ng Diyos ang mayaman...", also " ang pagmamahal sa salapi ay sanhi ng lahat ng kasamaan"...
paanong ang Bishop ng G12 ay may milyon-milyong halagang mga sasakyan (Ferrari, Harley Davidson, shotgun, bahay at lupa sa exclusive subdivision...etc etc) samantalang ito ay kontra sa prinsipyo nang Diyos.
Mismong ang Panginoong Jesus ay pumasok sa Herusalem (bilang isang Hari ha!), siya ay nagpahanap ng bisiro (donkey, o mule, na isa sa mga pinakahalos walang kwentang hayop sa mga magsasaka dahil mahirap gamitin sa pagtrabaho sa bukid)... kung prinsipyo na sinasabi nang G12 ang gustong mangyari nang Panginoon... e di sana nagpa-fund raising siya sa mga followers niya na marami na agad nung panahon na pumasok siya sa Herusalem... Sana inutusan niya ang mga disciples niya na mag koleksyon at bumili ng karwahe (chariot) at kung maaari ay meron pang mga gwardya na kasama na naka-kabayo...
Mga G12! isipin niyo nga!
Mababasa mo pa kaya ito. Ang G12 ay pag gaya ito sa Characteristic of Jesus. Si Jesus bumuo ng 12 upang ang 12 ay magkaroon ng disciple . Good Strategy for disciple make. Kung sa evangelism bring 1 save 1. Sa G12 pag naintindihan mo . Ang kailangan mo talaga mag disciple upang makakilala ang lahat ng tao ? Masama ba ang strategy ng G12 ? Masama ang aggressive Strategy yan sa mga lukewarm Christian.
BurahinBe aware that Cults always Demand Absolute obedience, loyalty and allegiance to whomever is the head or a Pastor.
TumugonBurahini think masyado ka lang naguguluhan Elijah even you hindi mo alam kung saan ka lalagay at kitang kita sayo na nagkaproblema ka sa binabatikos mo ngayon kaya ka ganyan
BurahinI strongly agree that g12 is indeed a cult www.generationscult.com
TumugonBurahinG12 is only a discipleship process. not a religion. bogota before they call it Drugs paradise.but now...there is a nation transformation because a lot of people joined in the cell group and bible study group where they can hear the message of hope and salvation. if they are wrong. God will stop them. ifnot they will spread. bcoz Jesus told us before the gospel will be preach at the every part of the World. and discipleship process can do that. salvation and sanctification is the Work of God. but for us is to make tyhem Disciple until they reach maturity in the faith.
TumugonBurahinG12 is only a discipleship process. not a religion. bogota before they call it Drugs paradise.but now...there is a nation transformation because a lot of people joined in the cell group and bible study group where they can hear the message of hope and salvation. if they are wrong. God will stop them. ifnot they will spread. bcoz Jesus told us before the gospel will be preach at the every part of the World. and discipleship process can do that. salvation and sanctification is the Work of God. but for us is to make tyhem Disciple until they reach maturity in the faith.
TumugonBurahinyeah right :)
Burahinyeah right :)
BurahinOriel balanon has NO THEOLOGICAL SCHOOL BACKGROUND. He is a con man promising prosperity if you are obedient.
BurahinNabasa nyu rin ba ang sinabi ni Oriel na kung wala ka sa G12 ay di ka maliligtas? Iwan ko kung totoo o hindi basta nabasa ko lang yun naka quote sa kanya.
BurahinG12 is not a cult and I can testify to that. Why would they advised us to always read the word of God if they are cult.
TumugonBurahinYou simply makes him richer, his using God words to his advantage. "Man cannot lead you to salvation, but ONLY you."
BurahinRemeber po even si satan memorize yung bible.
BurahinG12 is not a cult and I can testify to that. Why would they advised us to always read the word of God if they are cult.
TumugonBurahinSatan's Plan
TumugonBurahinDoubt- makes you question God's word His goodness and even His people.
Diversion- makes the wrong thing seems attractive so you want them more than the right thing
How can we call them cult if they help us to draw closer to God? Growing a number of genuine disciples will never be a cult movement. Indeed we need these kinds of Godly Leaders who will lead us to become a better person.. for us to be an agent for the nation transformation
Amen... Im part of G12 and masasabi kong mula noon hangang ngaun Relationship kay Jesus Christ ang turo nila.. make disciple hindi para sambahin ka.. kungdi para sambahin ang panginoon at si Jesus Christ.
Burahin"I gave you my words without you paying, so I give it too freely."
BurahinOriele asking for your money?
ANG TINDI NGA BRO..NABOLA AGAD KAYO..KAHIT SINO GAGAWA NG KWENTO PARA MAKALOKO NG TAO..AT ME MGA TAONG GINAGAMIT ANG RELIHIYON PRA MAGKAMAL...MAG INGAT KAYO, IISA LANG ANG KALULUWA NYO, WAG KAYONG BASTA MANINIWALA..MAGBASA KAYO NG BIBLIYA..NI HINDI NAGBABASA NG BIBLE PASTOR TODO TIWALA NA KAYO..
TumugonBurahinANG TINDI NGA BRO..NABOLA AGAD KAYO..KAHIT SINO GAGAWA NG KWENTO PARA MAKALOKO NG TAO..AT ME MGA TAONG GINAGAMIT ANG RELIHIYON PRA MAGKAMAL...MAG INGAT KAYO, IISA LANG ANG KALULUWA NYO, WAG KAYONG BASTA MANINIWALA..MAGBASA KAYO NG BIBLIYA..NI HINDI NAGBABASA NG BIBLE PASTOR TODO TIWALA NA KAYO..
TumugonBurahinHindi nagababasa ng bible ang pastor? HAHAHAHA
Burahineto pa, they're encouraging their us to read bible everyday.. so how come that they can fool their members? hmmm. I smell something fishy... are you a member of INComplete or Cultaholic? :)
haha.. I agree miss teryo ;-)
BurahinHindi sa tao aasa ng salvation. Walang taong magdadala sa iyo sa langit, maliban sa sarili mo.
BurahinTanging kay Jesus ka lang walang kahati anuman. Ang tao ay mapanlinlang, gagamitin ang mga salita ng Diyos para makuha niya ang yaman mo. Kung ang taong pinaniniwalaan mong naglalapit sa iyo sa Diyos, ay maginggat ka. Kung may kinukuha siyang kapalit mula sa iyo... ito ay hindi mula sa Diyos.
Im part of G12... and G12 is a system... karamihan ng turo samin is mag karoon ng Relationship ka Jesus Christ.. never ko narinig na may nag sabi na pastor na sila ang sambahin.. Ang mahirap sating mga Christian.. tayo tayo nag sisiran.. Sakin lng if you believe kay Jesus Christ... you can call yourselves as a Christian. Ang paniniwala ko lng po.. basta si Jesus Christ na nag alay ng buhay para tubusin ang mga ksalanan ntin ang Pinaniwalaan ng isang tao.. hindi ko sya tatawagin Kulto..
TumugonBurahinThis is just an untruthful and bias blog. That's it. :)
TumugonBurahinThe indigenous group of anti-G12 process, The G12 is not cult.
TumugonBurahinThe indigenous group of anti-G12 process, The G12 is not cult.
TumugonBurahinIT IS....YOU HAVE BEEN DECEIVED BECAUSE YOU DO NOT TRUST YOURSELF THAT YOU CAN KNOW AND HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH JESUS BY YOURSELF.
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TumugonBurahinI used to think that G12 is one of the stupid strategies founded. However I got into the system and it encourages every Christian to participate in the Great Commission as stated in Matthew 28:16-20. It basically continues the initial works of the 12 apostles. They discipled their own people group (Book of Acts)... from baby christians to becoming a leader who will also disciple their own people group. Its a cycle and a lifestyle. You will be trained to evangelize. It is not a cult.
TumugonBurahin"Jesus told his deciples, DO NOT bring anything with you, not even slipper, bread, foods or money. We will be guided by the Holy Spirit which will provide our needs."
BurahinHow come you have to pay for Oriel's seminars (no stop)?
How come you have to Tithes to him? Chirstians are no longer under the law?
G12 is not a cult. Kapag hitik talaga sa bunga, madaming mangbabato. Ang cult, they deny Jesus. Our leaders, Ptr Cesar and Bishop Oriel and the rest of the g12 leaders, are preaching Jesus as the way, truth, and life. I bet you haven't been there kaya ganyan ka magsalita. Probably hearsay mo lang or nabasa mo lang din sa ibang article or blog na cult ang g12. Also they are not imposing absolute obedience sa kanila. I have never heard even once na sinabi nilang i-obey nyo ako absolutely. It's always Jesus! At hindi sya self-proclaimed Bishop, ang mga nasa position na naggagawad ng ganon ang nagbigay non sa kanya. Hindi nya kelangan ng title pero sila ang nagbigay non kay Bishop acknowledging ung mga nagawa nya para sa advancement kingdom ng Lord. Sa mga sinabi mo, halatang hindi mo alam ang sinasabi mo. Our leaders guided us in a closer relationship with the Holy Spirit, to become better and better disciples, to win souls and make disciple, to love God and to love people, to stand firm on the truth and be firm believers of Christ, to love the Word of God, to have a prayerful life, to love our nation and pray for our nation, all we do is the Great Commission.
TumugonBurahinAnd for you to know, Doulos for Christ is the only church in the whole Philippines na hindi financially supported ng kahit anong international churches, kaya ung pinagkakatiwala sa amin ng Panginoon, pinagyayaman namin. Wala pa man kaming sariling building pero wala naman un sa building, because we are the church, the people are the church. Sadly, you don't know a single thing about G12. Minsan baka gusto mong puntahan para makita mo.
BurahinDAHIL BA ''NAGPI-PREACH NG TUNGKOL KAY JESUS DAPAT NG PANIWALAAN? ''Ayon sa kagandahang-loob ng Diyos sa akin, inilagay ko ang pundasyon, tulad ng isang mahusay na tagapagtayo. Iba naman ang nagpapatuloy sa pagtatayo ng gusali. Ngunit dapat maging maingat ang bawat nagtatayo, sapagkat wala nang ibang pundasyong maaaring ilagay maliban sa nailagay na, walang iba kundi si Jesu-Cristo. May nagtatayo na gumagamit ng ginto, pilak, o mahahalagang bato; mayroon namang gumagamit ng kahoy, damo, o dayami.'' - 1 Corinto 3:10-12
SA MGA G12 LEADERS,PASTORS OR WHATEVER YOU CALL YOURSELF, UNA SA LAHAT IPINAPANALANGIN KO NA BUKSAN NG DIYOS ANG MGA MATA NINYO,SAPAGKAT ANG DAGAT-DAGATANG APOY AY INIHANDA NG DIYOS SA MGA TAONG BULAAN (PEKE) AYON SA PAHAYAG 21:8
Nguni't sa mga duwag, at sa mga hindi mananampalataya, at sa mga kasuklamsuklam, at sa mga mamamatay-tao, at sa mga mapakiapid, at sa mga manggagaway, at sa mga mapagsamba sa diosdiosan, at sa lahat na mga sinungaling, ang kanilang bahagi ay sa dagatdagatang nagniningas sa apoy at asupre; na siyang ikalawang kamatayan.''
KAYO NA ANG HUMUSGA MGA MAMBABASA,ANG G12 BA ANG TINUKOY NI APOSTOL PABLO NA INILAGAY NIYANG ''PUNDASYON??''
BAHALA NA KAYONG MAGPASYA.. HINDI BA'T PINUKSA ANG 23,000 ISRAELITA SA ILANG DAHIL SA KANILANG PAKIKI-APID AT PAGSAMBA SA diyus-diyosan?? - 1 CORINTHIANS 10:1-12
SO KUNG SA TINGIN NINYO ''G12'' IS THE BEST AND pastor cesar castellanos and also bishop oriel is great because God is using them at kung sa tingin ninyong WALANG MALI sa proseso ninyo then think again READ YOUR BIBLE AND PRAY. IF YOU DON'T WANT TO TAKE THIS AS WARNING THEN SO BE IT,YOU WILL REAP WHAT YOU SOWN
But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves. MANY will FOLLOW their depraved conduct and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with fabricated stories. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
- 2 peter 2:1-3
Si cesar castillano ay bahagi ng drug cartel. Yun benta ng drugs ay hindi maide deposito sa bangko.Pero kung galing ang pera sa simbahan walang kuestion. Dito siya naimbestigahan. Ginagamit ang simbahan ng drug cartels upang mai deposit nila ang pera ng drugs.
BurahinDiem Ghie, kung ikaw ay my hindi magandang karanasan under G12 malamang karanasan mo lang yun hindi mo dapat nilalahat. Kung talagang ikaw ay tunaw na nakakilala sa Diyos dapat ipakilala din natin sya hindi yung sisira ka pa ng paniniwala ng iba which we know that G12 and the leaders are doing their best to bring the people to the Lord. G12 is not a cult, it is here where I had a deeper relationship with the Lord.
BurahinHow can G12 be a cult? G12 is a system with a vision. It does not tackle doctrines. Pastors' only preach what is in the Bible. Giving your tithes is in the Bible. Go and make disciples is in the Bible. Come on man. How can you say that G12 is a cult if they tell to the people that God Loves us and therefore, Jesus died for our sins so we can be saved. You just cannot talk something to those people who preach and obey God's Word for this is the truth. How come you say that G12 is a cult? I can stand it in front of you and hey, just about the giving tithes and offerings dude, tithes and offerings is an obligation to God. In other words I can say, that your God is sad for you being frugal to give what is really for Him.
TumugonBurahin
BurahinDAHIL BA ''NAGPI-PREACH NG TUNGKOL KAY JESUS DAPAT NG PANIWALAAN? ''Ayon sa kagandahang-loob ng Diyos sa akin, inilagay ko ang pundasyon, tulad ng isang mahusay na tagapagtayo. Iba naman ang nagpapatuloy sa pagtatayo ng gusali. Ngunit dapat maging maingat ang bawat nagtatayo, sapagkat wala nang ibang pundasyong maaaring ilagay maliban sa nailagay na, walang iba kundi si Jesu-Cristo. May nagtatayo na gumagamit ng ginto, pilak, o mahahalagang bato; mayroon namang gumagamit ng kahoy, damo, o dayami.'' - 1 Corinto 3:10-12
SA MGA G12 LEADERS,PASTORS OR WHATEVER YOU CALL YOURSELF, UNA SA LAHAT IPINAPANALANGIN KO NA BUKSAN NG DIYOS ANG MGA MATA NINYO,SAPAGKAT ANG DAGAT-DAGATANG APOY AY INIHANDA NG DIYOS SA MGA TAONG BULAAN (PEKE) AYON SA PAHAYAG 21:8
Nguni't sa mga duwag, at sa mga hindi mananampalataya, at sa mga kasuklamsuklam, at sa mga mamamatay-tao, at sa mga mapakiapid, at sa mga manggagaway, at sa mga mapagsamba sa diosdiosan, at sa lahat na mga sinungaling, ang kanilang bahagi ay sa dagatdagatang nagniningas sa apoy at asupre; na siyang ikalawang kamatayan.''
KAYO NA ANG HUMUSGA MGA MAMBABASA,ANG G12 BA ANG TINUKOY NI APOSTOL PABLO NA INILAGAY NIYANG ''PUNDASYON??''
BAHALA NA KAYONG MAGPASYA.. HINDI BA'T PINUKSA ANG 23,000 ISRAELITA SA ILANG DAHIL SA KANILANG PAKIKI-APID AT PAGSAMBA SA diyus-diyosan?? - 1 CORINTHIANS 10:1-12
SO KUNG SA TINGIN NINYO ''G12'' IS THE BEST AND pastor cesar castellanos and also bishop oriel is great because God is using them at kung sa tingin ninyong WALANG MALI sa proseso ninyo then think again READ YOUR BIBLE AND PRAY. IF YOU DON'T WANT TO TAKE THIS AS WARNING THEN SO BE IT,YOU WILL REAP WHAT YOU SOWN
But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves. MANY will FOLLOW their depraved conduct and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with fabricated stories. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
- 2 peter 2:1-3
BurahinOKAY LANG NA ALIPUSTAHIN O LAITIN NINYO KO, BUT REMEMBER THIS : (EZEKIEL 13:1-23)
And the word of the Lord came to me, saying, “Son of man, prophesy against the prophets of Israel who prophesy, and say to those who prophesy out of their own heart, ‘Hear the word of the Lord!’”
Thus says the Lord God: “Woe to the foolish prophets, who follow their own spirit and have seen nothing! O Israel, your prophets are like foxes in the deserts. You have not gone up into the gaps to build a wall for the house of Israel to stand in battle on the day of the Lord. They have envisioned futility and false divination, saying, ‘Thus says the Lord!’ But the Lord has not sent them; yet they hope that the word may be confirmed. Have you not seen a futile vision, and have you not spoken false divination? You say, ‘The Lord says,’ but I have not spoken.”
Therefore thus says the Lord God: “Because you have spoken nonsense and envisioned lies, therefore I am indeed against you,” says the Lord God. “My hand will be against the prophets who envision futility and who divine lies; they shall not be in the assembly of My people, nor be written in the record of the house of Israel, nor shall they enter into the land of Israel. Then you shall know that I am the Lord God.
“Because, indeed, because they have seduced My people, saying, ‘Peace!’ when there is no peace—and one builds a wall, and they plaster it with untempered mortar— say to those who plaster it with untempered mortar, that it will fall. There will be flooding rain, and you, O great hailstones, shall fall; and a stormy wind shall tear it down. Surely, when the wall has fallen, will it not be said to you, ‘Where is the mortar with which you plastered it?’”
Therefore thus says the Lord God: “I will cause a stormy wind to break forth in My fury; and there shall be a flooding rain in My anger, and great hailstones in fury to consume it. So I will break down the wall you have plastered with untempered mortar, and bring it down to the ground, so that its foundation will be uncovered; it will fall, and you shall be consumed in the midst of it. Then you shall know that I am the Lord.
“Thus will I accomplish My wrath on the wall and on those who have plastered it with untempered mortar; and I will say to you, ‘The wall is no more, nor those who plastered it, that is, the prophets of Israel who prophesy concerning Jerusalem, and who see visions of peace for her when there is no peace,’” says the Lord God.
our people, who prophesy out of their own heart; prophesy against them, and say, ‘Thus says the Lord God: “Woe to the women who sew magic charms on their sleeves and make veils for the heads of people of every height to hunt souls! Will you hunt the souls of My people, and keep yourselves alive? And will you profane Me among My people for handfuls of barley and for pieces of bread, killing people who should not die, and keeping people alive who should not live, by your lying to My people who listen to lies?”
‘Therefore thus says the Lord God: “Behold, I am against your magic charms by which you hunt souls there like birds. I will tear them from your arms, and let the souls go, the souls you hunt like birds. I will also tear off your veils and deliver My people out of your hand, and they shall no longer be as prey in your hand. Then you shall know that I am the Lord.
“Because with lies you have made the heart of the righteous sad, whom I have not made sad; and you have strengthened the hands of the wicked, so that he does not turn from his wicked way to save his life. Therefore you shall no longer envision futility nor practice divination; for I will deliver My people out of your hand, and you shall know that I am the Lord.
watch this and be ready: Godbless you may He enlighten your clouded minds and set you free from the doctrines of BALAAM and Nicolaitans :))
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZWYG0JfaFk
OKAY LANG NA ALIPUSTAHIN O LAITIN NINYO KO, BUT REMEMBER THIS : (EZEKIEL 13:1-23)
BurahinAnd the word of the Lord came to me, saying, “Son of man, prophesy against the prophets of Israel who prophesy, and say to those who prophesy out of their own heart, ‘Hear the word of the Lord!’”
Thus says the Lord God: “Woe to the foolish prophets, who follow their own spirit and have seen nothing! O Israel, your prophets are like foxes in the deserts. You have not gone up into the gaps to build a wall for the house of Israel to stand in battle on the day of the Lord. They have envisioned futility and false divination, saying, ‘Thus says the Lord!’ But the Lord has not sent them; yet they hope that the word may be confirmed. Have you not seen a futile vision, and have you not spoken false divination? You say, ‘The Lord says,’ but I have not spoken.”
Therefore thus says the Lord God: “Because you have spoken nonsense and envisioned lies, therefore I am indeed against you,” says the Lord God. “My hand will be against the prophets who envision futility and who divine lies; they shall not be in the assembly of My people, nor be written in the record of the house of Israel, nor shall they enter into the land of Israel. Then you shall know that I am the Lord God.
“Because, indeed, because they have seduced My people, saying, ‘Peace!’ when there is no peace—and one builds a wall, and they plaster it with untempered mortar— say to those who plaster it with untempered mortar, that it will fall. There will be flooding rain, and you, O great hailstones, shall fall; and a stormy wind shall tear it down. Surely, when the wall has fallen, will it not be said to you, ‘Where is the mortar with which you plastered it?’”
Therefore thus says the Lord God: “I will cause a stormy wind to break forth in My fury; and there shall be a flooding rain in My anger, and great hailstones in fury to consume it. So I will break down the wall you have plastered with untempered mortar, and bring it down to the ground, so that its foundation will be uncovered; it will fall, and you shall be consumed in the midst of it. Then you shall know that I am the Lord.
“Thus will I accomplish My wrath on the wall and on those who have plastered it with untempered mortar; and I will say to you, ‘The wall is no more, nor those who plastered it, that is, the prophets of Israel who prophesy concerning Jerusalem, and who see visions of peace for her when there is no peace,’” says the Lord God.
Likewise, son of man, set your face against the daughters of your people, who prophesy out of their own heart; prophesy against them, and say, ‘Thus says the Lord God: “Woe to the women who sew magic charms on their sleeves and make veils for the heads of people of every height to hunt souls! Will you hunt the souls of My people, and keep yourselves alive? And will you profane Me among My people for handfuls of barley and for pieces of bread, killing people who should not die, and keeping people alive who should not live, by your lying to My people who listen to lies?”
‘Therefore thus says the Lord God: “Behold, I am against your magic charms by which you hunt souls there like birds. I will tear them from your arms, and let the souls go, the souls you hunt like birds. I will also tear off your veils and deliver My people out of your hand, and they shall no longer be as prey in your hand. Then you shall know that I am the Lord.
“Because with lies you have made the heart of the righteous sad, whom I have not made sad; and you have strengthened the hands of the wicked, so that he does not turn from his wicked way to save his life. Therefore you shall no longer envision futility nor practice divination; for I will deliver My people out of your hand, and you shall know that I am the Lord.
watch this: MEGA CHURCH FALSE PROPHETS 100 EXPOSED and be ready: Godbless you may He enlighten your clouded minds and set you free from the doctrines of BALAAM and Nicolaitans :))
I used to attend Doulos for Christ for almost a year before I flew to Dubai. By the grace of God my eyes were opened by the false teachings of that church. I found a church here and every service the gospel is being preached faithfully. I believe that Doulos for Christ and its G12 system is teaching a false doctrine because of the following reasons:
Burahin1. No women are allowed to preach in the pulpit.
The women should keep silent in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be in submission, as the Law also says.
1 Corinthians 14:34 ESV
Let a woman learn quietly with all submissiveness. I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet.
1 Timothy 2:11-12
Even during Creation, Eve was made to be a helper to Adam.
2. "Your best is yet to come"
These words are like an echo in my ears during the time I was still attending Doulos. The congregation is focusing on tangible abundance and physical blessings. It may not be openly discussed or raised but the environment of Doulos is health & wealth centered. Just read Hebrews 11 who continue in the faith but the blessing they got was suffering.
3. God is love.. period
God is love, John 3:16 but God is also just.
Romans 9 "I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion." And how about the verse when God said "Jacob I love but Esau I hated. Below is the link of Paul Washer preaching:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AXzRXb0fHik
Hope all will be enlighten.
God bless you all.
Wow grabe nakakaiyak itong mga usapang ito....hmmm..habang tayo nagtatalo at nag sisiraan....kadami ng napahamak o namatay dahil di na pakinggan ang sinasabi nating dapat at tama...cguro lets be Fair and squaRe....lets lấy a side all arguments...lets Start dơing what we think right and must..regardLess of system or dogmas that you'Re into...lets Start honoring Jesus into our lives by cobtributing to the transformation that this Beloved Nation longed for...if we do so, we will all emerged Heroes of our generation...lết God đểal us Accordinglý.i salut e Every one who,se heart is set on edifying others in Christ and Committed to Make an impact/diffeRence to Ones life...
TumugonBurahinWow grabe nakakaiyak itong mga usapang ito....hmmm..habang tayo nagtatalo at nag sisiraan....kadami ng napahamak o namatay dahil di na pakinggan ang sinasabi nating dapat at tama...cguro lets be Fair and squaRe....lets lấy a side all arguments...lets Start dơing what we think right and must..regardLess of system or dogmas that you'Re into...lets Start honoring Jesus into our lives by cobtributing to the transformation that this Beloved Nation longed for...if we do so, we will all emerged Heroes of our generation...lết God đểal us Accordinglý.i salut e Every one who,se heart is set on edifying others in Christ and Committed to Make an impact/diffeRence to Ones life...
TumugonBurahinGOD BLESS YOU WHOEVER YOU ARE. OR SHOULD I SAY WHATEVER YOU ARE. CAN SEARCH FOR MORE INFO, CAUSE YOUR "STATEMENT" IS SO UNFAIR BRO!
TumugonBurahinI used to attend Doulos way back in 2004. Sa masagana mall pa kami nun sa may harap ng luneta. Wildsons. Everything was doing great until there's one instance na during tithing sinabi ng Pastor na kung anuman laman ng bulsa mo ibigay mo na. Kung magkano man yan ibigay mo na. Kase si Lord na daw ang bahala samen. May pera ako sa bulsa ko at pang tuition ko. Of course hindi ko ginawang tithe. Naguluhan lang talaga ako. Then everytime sa preaching pag Sunday, lagi tinatanong kung ilan months ka ng umaattend ng service bakit di pa daw sumasali sa "encounter". Yung encounter may registration fee. 1000 ata during our time. Tinanong ko cell leader ko. Kelangan nga daw talaga sumali sa encounter para maging legit member ng Simbahan.
TumugonBurahinEncounters are not God command. Man will trick you in promising prosperity etc. Obedient is not to man but for Gods. 1,000 encounter fee..? Rip off... no wonder oriels belly is getting huge. Oh... another thing, womans not allowed to preach? What about oriels woman so called pastora? Full of lies
BurahinHoy..mga pilipino gising na kayo..ang dali nyong mauto..malaki na masyado tiyan ng mga pastor na pinaniniwalaan nyo..Alam ni Cesar Castillanos na madaling maluko ang mag pilipino...Gising Bago na ang Presidente natin.. It is time for change..Pray for the Holy Spirit to revel the truth..They say that 144 is the key to multipiication...MULTIPLICATION OF MONEY..I was once a member of g12 church...and i keep researching bout Christianity specially this g12 and the rest of the corrupted christian churches and pastors...DON'T LET SATAN DESTROY OURSELVES BY INJECTING FALSE DOCTRINE..GOD BLESS US ALL..
TumugonBurahinThis guy sounds more jealous. I have sat under these teachings for many years...I have been in ministry for over 20 years. These people are genuine, The writer of this article needs prayer! He is the false one
TumugonBurahinYour obedience is NOT with God but with a man. Its not to late, tell this man enough is enough. You and you alone are responsible for your salvation.. not your church appellation.
BurahinSa mga magsasabi na cult ang g12 , eto yung mga taong ayaw paki alaman buhay nila..ayaw magpa rebuke..taas ng pride..gusto nila yung nasusunod at gustong marinig yung masarap lng sa tenga..halos kasi sa mga umaalis sa g12. Ay yung mga nag gusto eenjoy ang kasalanan at poverty mindset..
TumugonBurahinHow can be g12 a cult kung enienvourage magbasa ng bible everyday at mag pray lagi at baguhin ang mga mabahong ugali..lalo na yung ugaling kaw lng nakaka alam..
Malamang author nito ay na rebuke kaya galit2x..o d kaya hiniwalayan nag gf or bf after mag encounter kasi na open ang eyes..hahay...mag encounter kana kasi
Hindi ka pa nabago ng G12 mo, ayan mga lumalabas sa bibig mo puro panlalait sa kapuwa mo. Its not to late.. your relation is not with Jesus but with a man that manipulates your faith.
BurahinYun mga pananalita mo parang bata... puro tanong.
Sa mga magsasabi na cult ang g12 , eto yung mga taong ayaw paki alaman buhay nila..ayaw magpa rebuke..taas ng pride..gusto nila yung nasusunod at gustong marinig yung masarap lng sa tenga..halos kasi sa mga umaalis sa g12. Ay yung mga nag gusto eenjoy ang kasalanan at poverty mindset..
TumugonBurahinHow can be g12 a cult kung enienvourage magbasa ng bible everyday at mag pray lagi at baguhin ang mga mabahong ugali..lalo na yung ugaling kaw lng nakaka alam..
Malamang author nito ay na rebuke kaya galit2x..o d kaya hiniwalayan nag gf or bf after mag encounter kasi na open ang eyes..hahay...mag encounter kana kasi
God is always good. And He is always God. Whether its g12 or not, the gospel must be spread.. Because, it is not because of us. It is what commissioned to us. Anyway, it is the work of the Holy Spirit. We need just to submit to Him everyday. G12 is just a process. Whatever is taught in the process, we need to do it with all our heart so that our labor will not be wasted. Remember that we walk by faith, not by sight.
TumugonBurahinIf there is a hefty price for everything it is NOT of God but evil... BEWARE.
BurahinSearch on fb the page g12 cult. Maraming expose about G12. May tatlong video dun na nagpapatunay na money business at cult and G12. Yung isa tinuro ni Bishop Oriel na bibigyan ng Php 172800.00 yung taong makakabuo ng 1728 para sa simbahan as motivation sa mga member na bumuo ng 1728 pafa dumami myembro ng simbahan at yung pera ng simbahan. Yung isa pang video na sinabi niya na mukha syang pera at kapag dumami ang miyembro ng simbahan darami ang pera ng simbahan kasi hindi pwedeng may pera yun. Yung isa yubg sinabi ni Pstr. Geraldine Ballano na nakakahiyang magbigay ng 100k sa simbahan kung may isang milyong piso ka at nakakahiyang magbigay ng piso, sampung piso at bente pesos sa simbahan. Matibay na ebidensya na pera ang habol ng mga yan sa mga tao. So beware of G12 and visit G12 cult page on fb and other testimony of abuses and rejection of COMACOP philippines of G12.
TumugonBurahinSearch on fb the page g12 cult. Maraming expose about G12. May tatlong video dun na nagpapatunay na money business at cult and G12. Yung isa tinuro ni Bishop Oriel na bibigyan ng Php 172800.00 yung taong makakabuo ng 1728 para sa simbahan as motivation sa mga member na bumuo ng 1728 pafa dumami myembro ng simbahan at yung pera ng simbahan. Yung isa pang video na sinabi niya na mukha syang pera at kapag dumami ang miyembro ng simbahan darami ang pera ng simbahan kasi hindi pwedeng may pera yun. Yung isa yubg sinabi ni Pstr. Geraldine Ballano na nakakahiyang magbigay ng 100k sa simbahan kung may isang milyong piso ka at nakakahiyang magbigay ng piso, sampung piso at bente pesos sa simbahan. Matibay na ebidensya na pera ang habol ng mga yan sa mga tao. So beware of G12 and visit G12 cult page on fb and other testimony of abuses and rejection of COMACOP philippines of G12.
TumugonBurahinFor me, kung ano lang ang nire-require ni Lord, yon lang ang gagawin ko, each of us has our own mind and heart for the Lord.. and i will do something as the Holy Spirit leads and i will not rely on what people may told or say or manadated..
BurahinWhy problem the problem of God? Hayaan mo na si Lord jan.. Kung ang ginagawa ay para sa Diyos, God will support it, but I believe na kung ang tao ay gusto na niyang higitan ang Diyos, God will make a way out for that..
BurahinThis is nice! Now I know...
TumugonBurahinThis is nice! Now I know...
TumugonBurahinThis is nice! Now I know...
TumugonBurahinActs 5:38-39
TumugonBurahin[38]And now I say unto you, Refrain from these men, and let them alone: for if this counsel or this work be of men, it will come to nought:
At ngayo'y sinasabi ko sa inyo, Huwag kayong mangakialam sa mga taong ito, at pabayaan ninyo sila: sapagka't kung ang pasiyang ito, o ang gawang ito ay sa mga tao, ay mawawasak:
[39]But if it be of God, ye cannot overthrow it; lest haply ye be found even to fight against God.
Datapuwa't kung sa Dios, ay hindi ninyo maiwawasak; baka pa kayo'y mangasumpungan na nangakikihamok laban sa Dios.
Ang lahat ng kontra at hindi nkaintindi kong anu ang ibig sabihin ng G12 ay mga religious people at pekeng kristiano.
TumugonBurahinAng lahat ng kontra at hindi nkaintindi kong anu ang ibig sabihin ng G12 ay mga religious people at pekeng kristiano.
TumugonBurahinOne of their teachings is this "God will surely bless you if you will become obedient."
TumugonBurahinSimple logic: how can you call "blessings" the things come from your obedience? Isn't it a wages? Blessings do not necessitate obedience. Blessings are free apart from man'work..
What then the congregation will think for themselves? "Kaya siguro hindi ako naiblebless ni Lord kase hindi ko nasusunod yung mga bagay na dapat kong gawin."
Wake up people of God out there.!
Naalis ng may-ari ang komentong ito.
BurahinDeut 28:1-2 - If you fully obey the LORD your God and carefully follow all his commands I give you today, the LORD your God will set you high above all the nations on earth. All these blessings will come upon you and accompany you if you obey the LORD your God.
BurahinJames 1:25 - But whoever looks intently into the perfect law that gives freedom, and continues in it—not forgetting what they have heard, but doing it—they will be blessed in what they do.
Understand that blessings are not all given in physical, it can be emotional or spiritual. But the main key here is that there is the need to have a relationship with God. And God will require our obedience for God to put our life in order. You are correct that God will bless you regardless of your connection with Him, because He is merciful and gracious. However, the blessings He provides to you when you do obey is so much better because you are living in His care. And when you are His child, He will provide for you. Also, there are blessings God withholds because He is waiting for us to obey.
I see this whole thread as people fighting for petty things. To judge if something is a cult:
TumugonBurahin1. Do they change who God is? Or most times the deity of Christ?
2. Do they change how you can receive salvation? Do they gain salvation without needing Christ? Does it require you to do works to be saved? (There is a difference between doing work because you're saved vs doing work to be saved)
3. Do they encourage you to NOT read the Bible daily in your own time?
4. Do they change the Bible, or add books for the fundamental beliefs? Book of Mormon? New World Translation?
5. Do they discourage having a deep relationship with God through personal connection and NOT dying to your own selfish desires?
If you say yes to any of these questions, it's a cult. As far as I can see, G12 doesn't do any of these. How they choose how they moderate their money is up to them; they're accountable to God. Just as long as they preach the proper Gospel and push people to have a genuine relationship with God through proper Bible reading (and not through dictated doctrine), I would NEVER consider it as a cult.